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	<title>Comments on: It&#039;s 5am &#8211; Do You Know Where Your Kids Are?</title>
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		<title>By: Rolli</title>
		<link>http://www.timothy-green.org/blog/2008/03/its-5am-do-you-know-where-your-kids-are/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best thing about working over late and hard is that you can, if you&#039;re lucky, get yourself into a buzzed kind of trance; this is where I often get my best ideas.  Of course, if you&#039;re unlucky, you have a heart attack.  But there&#039;s an element of risk in anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best thing about working over late and hard is that you can, if you&#8217;re lucky, get yourself into a buzzed kind of trance; this is where I often get my best ideas.  Of course, if you&#8217;re unlucky, you have a heart attack.  But there&#8217;s an element of risk in anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.timothy-green.org/blog/2008/03/its-5am-do-you-know-where-your-kids-are/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talia -- I use Quark, but I wouldn&#039;t recommend it unless you want to get really serious with design.  The book I have for it calls itself a bible, and is twice as big.  For seemingly no reason at all, it calls files &quot;layouts&quot; and templates &quot;projects&quot;.  Fonts and postscript files can be a real pain, too.  You can do anything with it, but getting it done isn&#039;t always easy.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I learned by hiring a graphic designer to come in and tutor me for a few hours one day, just working through how I&#039;d make an issue.  You can&#039;t really learn how to use software with a book, you have to be hands on and experiment -- that&#039;s why kids are so good with computers, I think; they just screw around until they figure things out, whereas adults tend not to give themselves that much leeway.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Most of the industry has actually moved away from Quark and uses In-Design, which they say is much more intuitive, but just as powerful.  I really don&#039;t know, though, I&#039;ve never used it, and I&#039;ll probably use Quark forever, now that I&#039;ve got the hang of it.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway, for very basic things, Microsoft Publisher works very well.  I always used to use it to make chapbooks and fliers and things like that.  It&#039;s part of the  MS Office suite.  You can just insert or paste-in images, and then drag them around the document.  No metrics.  There are a lot of pre-made templates for chapbooks, brochures, etc.  It&#039;s great for personal use, if you&#039;re just printing out things yourself or at Kinkos.  The only problem is that a professional printer won&#039;t take those files, and I don&#039;t think you can convert them into PDFs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talia &#8212; I use Quark, but I wouldn&#8217;t recommend it unless you want to get really serious with design.  The book I have for it calls itself a bible, and is twice as big.  For seemingly no reason at all, it calls files &#8220;layouts&#8221; and templates &#8220;projects&#8221;.  Fonts and postscript files can be a real pain, too.  You can do anything with it, but getting it done isn&#8217;t always easy.  </p>
<p>I learned by hiring a graphic designer to come in and tutor me for a few hours one day, just working through how I&#8217;d make an issue.  You can&#8217;t really learn how to use software with a book, you have to be hands on and experiment &#8212; that&#8217;s why kids are so good with computers, I think; they just screw around until they figure things out, whereas adults tend not to give themselves that much leeway.  </p>
<p>Most of the industry has actually moved away from Quark and uses In-Design, which they say is much more intuitive, but just as powerful.  I really don&#8217;t know, though, I&#8217;ve never used it, and I&#8217;ll probably use Quark forever, now that I&#8217;ve got the hang of it.  </p>
<p>Anyway, for very basic things, Microsoft Publisher works very well.  I always used to use it to make chapbooks and fliers and things like that.  It&#8217;s part of the  MS Office suite.  You can just insert or paste-in images, and then drag them around the document.  No metrics.  There are a lot of pre-made templates for chapbooks, brochures, etc.  It&#8217;s great for personal use, if you&#8217;re just printing out things yourself or at Kinkos.  The only problem is that a professional printer won&#8217;t take those files, and I don&#8217;t think you can convert them into PDFs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.timothy-green.org/blog/2008/03/its-5am-do-you-know-where-your-kids-are/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for saying that Mr. Escude. (Is it Alejandro Escude?  I hope that&#039;s right, I&#039;m out of town and don&#039;t have anything in front of me, but my poor memory...)  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Don&#039;t worry, no review is going to make us change our focus.  I just do want each issue to be eclectic -- we have room for about 100 pages of poetry, so I want to always mix in some formal verse and some humor.  But I agree with you about the weighty topics -- if we&#039;re not writing about things that important, you have to ask why we&#039;re writing in the first place.  Particularly when it comes to politics and social issues; those poems are often the hardest to write without preaching or pandering, but they&#039;re what make poetry matter.  My favorite poem we&#039;ve ever published is probably &quot;Baghdad Mon Amour&quot; by Iraqi-exile Salah al Hamdani.  But then my second-favorite is a very personal poem by Li-Young Lee...they&#039;re all important in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for saying that Mr. Escude. (Is it Alejandro Escude?  I hope that&#8217;s right, I&#8217;m out of town and don&#8217;t have anything in front of me, but my poor memory&#8230;)  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, no review is going to make us change our focus.  I just do want each issue to be eclectic &#8212; we have room for about 100 pages of poetry, so I want to always mix in some formal verse and some humor.  But I agree with you about the weighty topics &#8212; if we&#8217;re not writing about things that important, you have to ask why we&#8217;re writing in the first place.  Particularly when it comes to politics and social issues; those poems are often the hardest to write without preaching or pandering, but they&#8217;re what make poetry matter.  My favorite poem we&#8217;ve ever published is probably &#8220;Baghdad Mon Amour&#8221; by Iraqi-exile Salah al Hamdani.  But then my second-favorite is a very personal poem by Li-Young Lee&#8230;they&#8217;re all important in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Talia</title>
		<link>http://www.timothy-green.org/blog/2008/03/its-5am-do-you-know-where-your-kids-are/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Talia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious to know what you use as far as software.  I&#039;m not a graphic designer either, but find myself involved in projects in which I wish I was.  I want a user-friendly program (something that doesn&#039;t require me knowing what a bunch of acronyms means and doesn&#039;t require me to know measurements of images) that is good enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious to know what you use as far as software.  I&#8217;m not a graphic designer either, but find myself involved in projects in which I wish I was.  I want a user-friendly program (something that doesn&#8217;t require me knowing what a bunch of acronyms means and doesn&#8217;t require me to know measurements of images) that is good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Green, just so you know who I am, you recently accepted a poem of mine, &quot;The Driving Range,&quot; and I greatly appreciate the recognition. I just read your latest posting and I have to plead with you not to accept criticism from people who express any form of distaste for &quot;weighty-topic free verse.&quot; In my opinion, &quot;weighy-topic free verse&quot; is exactly what we need more of, not less. This type of poetry is what makes Rattle so great. You publish the real stuff, so don&#039;t let the mind-driven passionless highbrow overly-intellectual geekdom out there infect one the only worthwhile zines in this country. This argument stems from the idea that poets should &quot;get off the subject,&quot; well, I think we&#039;ve gotten of the subject a lot in this country, maybe that explains a lot of our current woes. By the way, people like this don&#039;t want Picasso, Picasso is what you publish, what they want is poor, spirit-less immitations of Rauschenberg, Roethko, Pollock. Keep doing what you&#039;re doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Green, just so you know who I am, you recently accepted a poem of mine, &#8220;The Driving Range,&#8221; and I greatly appreciate the recognition. I just read your latest posting and I have to plead with you not to accept criticism from people who express any form of distaste for &#8220;weighty-topic free verse.&#8221; In my opinion, &#8220;weighy-topic free verse&#8221; is exactly what we need more of, not less. This type of poetry is what makes Rattle so great. You publish the real stuff, so don&#8217;t let the mind-driven passionless highbrow overly-intellectual geekdom out there infect one the only worthwhile zines in this country. This argument stems from the idea that poets should &#8220;get off the subject,&#8221; well, I think we&#8217;ve gotten of the subject a lot in this country, maybe that explains a lot of our current woes. By the way, people like this don&#8217;t want Picasso, Picasso is what you publish, what they want is poor, spirit-less immitations of Rauschenberg, Roethko, Pollock. Keep doing what you&#8217;re doing.</p>
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