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	<title>Comments on: Behind the Scenes: Rattle Poetry Prize Final Math</title>
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	<description>Poetry Editor and Struggling Poet</description>
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		<title>By: 2009 Rattle Poetry Prize Math &#124; Timothy Green</title>
		<link>http://www.timothy-green.org/blog/2008/08/behind-the-scenes-rattle-poetry-prize-final-math/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>2009 Rattle Poetry Prize Math &#124; Timothy Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you can see from last year&#8217;s post, this is 433 more entries than we received last year, and we blew past my goal of 1,350 with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you can see from last year&#8217;s post, this is 433 more entries than we received last year, and we blew past my goal of 1,350 with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anoth R. Poet</title>
		<link>http://www.timothy-green.org/blog/2008/08/behind-the-scenes-rattle-poetry-prize-final-math/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Anoth R. Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a link to Alpaugh&#039;s &quot;The Professionalization of Poetry,&quot;

http://www.houstonpoetryreview.net
/fall2003_review_001.html

Picks up where Dana Gioia leaves off.  Great stuff.  Recommended from &quot;Anoth!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link to Alpaugh&#8217;s &#8220;The Professionalization of Poetry,&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.houstonpoetryreview.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.houstonpoetryreview.net</a><br />
/fall2003_review_001.html</p>
<p>Picks up where Dana Gioia leaves off.  Great stuff.  Recommended from &#8220;Anoth!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Thorburn</title>
		<link>http://www.timothy-green.org/blog/2008/08/behind-the-scenes-rattle-poetry-prize-final-math/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Thorburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim, thanks for sharing this behind-the-scenes look into how the Rattle contest works. I think it&#039;s helpful for all of us who send out work to understand what goes on -- all the hard work editors do, all the costs, and how little (if any) money is left over when all is said and done -- on the other side of the process.

I have never run a contest, but did co-edit a journal for several years, so I can empathize with the workload (though we never received that many poems) as well as understand the excitement of discovering exciting new (to you) poets to publish.

And I&#039;m looking forward to that article on book contests. Sounds like it will be interesting, to say the least!

take care,
Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim, thanks for sharing this behind-the-scenes look into how the Rattle contest works. I think it&#8217;s helpful for all of us who send out work to understand what goes on &#8212; all the hard work editors do, all the costs, and how little (if any) money is left over when all is said and done &#8212; on the other side of the process.</p>
<p>I have never run a contest, but did co-edit a journal for several years, so I can empathize with the workload (though we never received that many poems) as well as understand the excitement of discovering exciting new (to you) poets to publish.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m looking forward to that article on book contests. Sounds like it will be interesting, to say the least!</p>
<p>take care,<br />
Matt</p>
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		<title>By: G.M. Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.M. Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding!  I look forward to reading it.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi G.M.--

You&#039;re very right, of course -- there are lot of ways we could manipulate this to turn it into a more profitable situation, if that was our goal.  Most contests have a higher entry fee or less prize money.  But thankfully we&#039;re secure enough in our funding that all we really care about are the readers and the poetry, and so don&#039;t have to worry about things like that.

As for book contests, wait till you read the essay we&#039;re publishing in our Fall e-issue at the end of this September.  David Alpaugh is going to be talking about just that thing -- the problem with book contests, not only diluting the poetry waters, but failing to support what they publish.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll enjoy it.

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi G.M.&#8211;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re very right, of course &#8212; there are lot of ways we could manipulate this to turn it into a more profitable situation, if that was our goal.  Most contests have a higher entry fee or less prize money.  But thankfully we&#8217;re secure enough in our funding that all we really care about are the readers and the poetry, and so don&#8217;t have to worry about things like that.</p>
<p>As for book contests, wait till you read the essay we&#8217;re publishing in our Fall e-issue at the end of this September.  David Alpaugh is going to be talking about just that thing &#8212; the problem with book contests, not only diluting the poetry waters, but failing to support what they publish.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll enjoy it.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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